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    I would like to discuss the idea of a God. I do not care if you are atheist or religious in any way, I just would like to share some ideas and hear some of your own.
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    In reply to wyatt38, re: your #1 post.

    GOD!?!? The idea of God is very appealing on an emotional level...for comfort. Like a favorite old "binkie" from childhood.

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    Oh...I forgot! Cheers and welcome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyatt38 View Post
    I would like to discuss the idea of a God. I do not care if you are atheist or religious in any way, I just would like to share some ideas and hear some of your own.

    Welcome to the forum Wyatt. I used to be a Christian until recently. I finally came to admit to myself that I was never really being honest with myself and that I never really believed that God exists. I've had a rough life and heard so many people promise me that my life would be so much better if I "Welcome Jesus into my life" - that kind of sentence always gave me the creeps even when I was pretending to be a Christian.

    I think it's all nonsense now.
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    In further reply to wyatt38, re: God

    I was thinking of more to say, and then I forgot! I agree w/Physicist...it's nonsense. If any God exists, then it would surely be some unknown mechanism of human psyche that "willed it

    into existence" a creation of quantum-thought. An always present "parent" who will always "be there for us".


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    We have evolved to love and to want to be loved for reasons of best survival. I had a short spell of true belief when I was younger. It felt like being in love. It was only temporary and passed in a few months.
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    In reply to Jilan, re: your #5 post.

    I wish I could have happiness in this life...I had my chance, and I walked away over an argument regarding a promotion I wanted at work. (fooked meself good an' proper, eh?)

    My loneliness for what I've lost is so bad I don't know any words for it...what could have been, what should have been.

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    If there is GOD, what use is it to be GOD...I don't need any GOD...just Her.

    What use are promises of happiness in eternity? (a single kiss from Her would be enough to last forever for me)

    What use is a GOD who would allow a single child to suffer from spina bifida? Or from neglect? From torture of the mind and body?

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    "Jesus loves you" makes me ill with disgust...some pinhead will spout this to me, to which I say "What makes me special? I don't need Jesus to love me! I want Jesus to cure every child

    on Earth who suffers...when that happens, come and tell me".

    It's amazing how fast some zealot will retreat from this.


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    Gerry, does She know you still feel this way?
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    In reply to Jilan, re: your #7 post.

    Yes.

    (remember the post I wrote on "being careful w/ debit cards" on physorg? AlexG jumped the thread, made a snide comment concerning "stalking", I answered back, and BillyT. jumped in

    and "warned" me...all because I explained that I used a card to make certain of Her current address. I need to know where an executor can find Her so as to insure my estate doesn't get

    charged legal fees for "searching", she gets my paid-for house and everything in it (my property taxes are so low, they get paid in loose change!) I get accused of things, I react...so I

    get "banned" for it. Other people get away with murder there, so I "flamed" the whole lot of them, including choice words for rpenner!)

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    "Time is a face on the water", Jilan. It has been 19yrs. now since I last saw Her. She has her own life to live, and I am the past of that life. (I wish in my heart things were different, that we

    were together in real life, instead of just my dreams) I want happiness for Her, not being lonely like me...it pleases me to think she has someone who cares for her as I do, at least I hope so.

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    Should I pray to GOD to grant me happiness with Her? NO...because it would not be real! "Love" is not a present, to be given out. It is, like light, "there" or "not there".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Nightingale View Post
    In reply to Jilan, re: your #5 post.

    I wish I could have happiness in this life...I had my chance, and I walked away over an argument regarding a promotion I wanted at work. (fooked meself good an' proper, eh?)

    My loneliness for what I've lost is so bad I don't know any words for it...what could have been, what should have been.

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    If there is GOD, what use is it to be GOD...I don't need any GOD...just Her.

    What use are promises of happiness in eternity? (a single kiss from Her would be enough to last forever for me)

    What use is a GOD who would allow a single child to suffer from spina bifida? Or from neglect? From torture of the mind and body?

    .....

    "Jesus loves you" makes me ill with disgust...some pinhead will spout this to me, to which I say "What makes me special? I don't need Jesus to love me! I want Jesus to cure every child

    on Earth who suffers...when that happens, come and tell me".

    It's amazing how fast some zealot will retreat from this.


    Ta ra!
    You are right. God isn't needed for this world.We don't need him. The universe wasn't created by god.He is just imagination
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jilan View Post
    It was only temporary and passed in a few months.
    With some people its permanent. That gives them the impression that it's caused by a greater being and they give that being the name "God". To be precise, when this happens they try to fit it into things in their life and religion is the obvious choice. And I'm sure that you know how some people can be, i.e. if it works for then it must, of course, work for you. That's how the pressure to convert starts. It's all so simple to the more educated but not so for the uneducated. Especially those not used to being able to construct a logical argument and who are adept at rational reasoning. Even more simple for scientists and some philosophers to see the flaws in their arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Nightingale
    "Jesus loves you" makes me ill with disgust...
    I hear that. It makes me sick when people say that. I don't understand their need to say it either. Are they so dumb as to think it'd make any difference in the life of an atheist other than to piss them off?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerry Nightingale
    some pinhead will spout this to me, to which I say "What makes me special? I don't need Jesus to love me! I want Jesus to cure every child

    on Earth who suffers...when that happens, come and tell me"
    I hear that big time, Gerry. I have an old childhood friend that I tried to contact recently. He wasn't there so I spoke to his wife. She told me that he damaged his spine. He has some herniated disks that won't heal and I'm told that it's the worst thing in the world and its extremely painful and it never ends, never gives your mind a moment of peace. Think of going for 20 years with no break in the pain, even with strong narcotics. When that happens the pain starts to twist one's mind and makes you say and do irrational things. What kind of God allows something like that to happen? Then this God makes them account for their actions when in that state? To hell with God. This was one of the nicest persons that you could ever want for a friend too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physicist View Post
    Welcome to the forum Wyatt. I used to be a Christian until recently. I finally came to admit to myself that I was never really being honest with myself and that I never really believed that God exists. I've had a rough life and heard so many people promise me that my life would be so much better if I "Welcome Jesus into my life" - that kind of sentence always gave me the creeps even when I was pretending to be a Christian.

    I think it's all nonsense now.
    What happened , Peter? You used to be quite a fundie.....
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