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  1. #1 Is Quantum Physics a form of biology that originated because of evolution? 
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    If someone said there was piece of land available for you to build on but no one had ever been to that particular piece of land, would you simply buy up all the products for the house and go to the site or would you go to the site first, analyze the site, then design the house in accordance with what was needed for the house to be sustainable on the piece of land?

    Most people would go the site first to check out the site so they could design a house that was sustainable. This ideology has evolved because of the process of quantum physics.
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    Wtf!?
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    Is Quantum Physics a form of biology that originated because of evolution?
    No.
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    What a brilliant question. To inversely renormalise it, are we evolving because of quantum physics? Are we questioning because the quantum field wants to know about itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantumologist View Post
    What a brilliant question. To inversely renormalise it, are we evolving because of quantum physics? Are we questioning because the quantum field wants to know about itself?
    No. No. And no.
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    No, No, and No?

    Okay, then are your ideas the result of a quantum biological process?
    If the answer is No, please substantiate.
    Does the brain conduct quantum biological processes?
    If No, please explain refutement of IoP's article here: https://phys.org/news/2014-01-discov...roborates.html
    If there is any element of Yes likely to find its way into the response here, could the triple No perhaps be reviewed?
    Or perhaps peer reviewed, even?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantumologist View Post
    If there is any element of Yes likely to find its way into the response here, could the triple No perhaps be reviewed?
    As you have changed the questions then the answers may be different.

    But the answers are rather vague. For example, all chemical processes (and therefore all biology) are ultimately quantum effects so it is trivially true but also fairly pointless to ask if "ideas the result of a quantum biological process".
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    Understood. That said, surely the evolution of the universe itself rests / has rested on quantum effects from (prior to?) its conception, and since we are not separate from the universe, but rather part of it, the very nature of our idea-forming process could be found to relate to the basic mechanics of creation, could it not? And that concept, were it to be actualised, could prove to be very important indeed, not only to our present ways of thinking but also to the approaches future generations will have to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantumologist View Post
    Understood. That said, surely the evolution of the universe itself rests / has rested on quantum effects from (prior to?) its conception, and since we are not separate from the universe, but rather part of it, the very nature of our idea-forming process could be found to relate to the basic mechanics of creation, could it not? And that concept, were it to be actualised, could prove to be very important indeed, not only to our present ways of thinking but also to the approaches future generations will have to work with.
    Again, saying that everything comes from the Big Bang (in which quantum effects were important) and therefore our thoughts come from the Big Bang is trivially true and completely pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    As you have changed the questions then the answers may be different.

    But the answers are rather vague. For example, all chemical processes (and therefore all biology) are ultimately quantum effects so it is trivially true but also fairly pointless to ask if "ideas the result of a quantum biological process".
    The Institute of Physics seemed to think it was significant enough to comment on (as linked previously). And the BBC has this to say:

    "The perennial puzzle of consciousness has even led some researchers to invoke quantum physics to explain it. That notion has always been met with skepticism, which is not surprising: it does not sound wise to explain one mystery with another. But such ideas are not obviously absurd, and neither are they arbitrary."
    From this article: BBC - Earth - The strange link between the human mind and quantum physics

    So far from being pointless, according to the logic of other minds there is indeed a great deal of point in pondering this question, and since the pondering of difficult questions is in part at least what forums are for, it would be nice to see who else has thoughts on this issue, and perhaps is worth beginning a new thread on the subject accordingly.
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