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    I've heard some explanations of the Black Hole firewall involving broken entanglement releasing energy that frankly I don't understand, but I have another way to think about it and I'd like to know if its even approximately correct. As I'm getting closer and closer to the Event Horizon time would slow down for me, and that means if I'm looking at you far from the Black Hole you would seem to be moving faster and faster, when I hit the Event Horizon itself I would see the entire future history of the universe up until the point the Black Hole evaporated away. You would only very very rarely see a photon of Hawking Radiation coming from the Black Hole but I would see them much more often and the photons would have more energy too because they didn't have to clime out of such a steep gravity well. The closer I got to the Event Horizon the hotter I would get until I got to the Planck temperature which I think is about 10^32 K.

    Am I on the wrong track or is any if this right?

    John K Clark
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    Quote Originally Posted by John K Clark View Post
    As I'm getting closer and closer to the Event Horizon time would slow down for me,
    It doesn't.

    when I hit the Event Horizon itself I would see the entire future history of the universe up until the point the Black Hole evaporated away.
    What gives you this idea?


    You would only very very rarely see a photon of Hawking Radiation coming from the Black Hole but I would see them much more often and the photons would have more energy too because they didn't have to clime out of such a steep gravity well.
    This is a mainstream science forum, not a place where you push your fringe ideas.


    The closer I got to the Event Horizon the hotter I would get until I got to the Planck temperature which I think is about 10^32 K.

    This is a mainstream science forum, not a place where you push your fringe ideas.
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    It's not my idea it's​ ​Joseph Polchinski​'s, and if its fringe then the journal Nature has started to publish junk science because that where I learned about it: I was trying to get help understanding this article in the April 3 2013 issue of the journal Nature:

    https://www.nature.com/news/astrophy...e-hole-1.12726


    I get his argument that after half the mass of the Black Hole radiated away entanglement will be lost because ​quantum mechanics forbids 3 things being fully entangled, but what I DON'T understand is why that would produce energy and make things hot. Joseph Polchinski, they guy who came up with the firewall idea said:

    It’s a violent process, like breaking the bonds of a molecule, and it releases energy.​ ​The energy generated by severing lots of twins would be enormous. The event horizon would literally be a ring of fire that burns anyone falling through

    But why? Why would breaking quantum entanglement release energy and produce heat, what does one have to do with the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John K Clark View Post
    It's not my idea it's​ ​Joseph Polchinski​'s, and if its fringe then the journal Nature has started to publish junk science because that where I learned about it:​
    The author doesn't claim nonsense such as "time slows down for me as I approach the EH". This fringe claim is entirely yours. Please cease and desist.
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